BREEDERS' CUP 2011: Entries, Post Positions and Morning Line Odds
by Matt Gardner on Oct 31, 2011 2:43 PM EDT
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The entries, post positions and morning line odds are set for the 2011 Breeders' Cup at Churchill Downs on Nov. 4th and 5th. Uncle Mo, the 2010 Breeders' Cup Juvenile champion, drew post position 12 for the Breeders' Cup Classic and was installed as the 5/2 morning line favorite. Havre de Grace is the second choice at odds of 3/1.
Goldikova (IRE) drew the rail for the Mile and was made the 7/5 morning line favorite.
The complete list of 2011 Breeders' Cup entries, post positions and morning line is below the jump.
Juvenile Sprint - Friday, 11/4 - Race 2 - 4:10pm Post Time
| Post | Horse | Jockey | Trainer | ML Odds |
| 1 | Seeker | Julien Leparoux | Steven M. Asmussen | 4/1 |
| 2 | Sum of the Parts | Rajiv Maragh | Thomas M. Amoss | 15/1 |
| 3 | Blacky the Bull | Patrick Valenzuela | Jeffrey L. Bonde | 20/1 |
| 4 | Trinniberg | Cornelio Velasquez | Bisnath Parbhoo | 9/2 |
| 5 | Shumoos | Garret Gomez | Brian Meehan | 15/1 |
| 6 | Secret Circle | Rafael Bejarano | Bob Baffert | 6/5 |
| 7 | Holdin Bullets | Jeffery Sanchez | Wesley A. Ward | 15/1 |
| 8 | Jake Mo | Mike Smith | Allen Milligan | 20/1 |
| 9 | Vexor | David Cohen | John C. Kimmel DVM | 5/1 |
Juvenile Fillies Turf - Friday, 11/4 - Race 3 - 4:50pm Post Time
| Post | Horse | Jockey | Trainer | ML Odds |
| 1 | My Gi Gi | Rafael Bejarano | Brian J. Koriner | 20/1 |
| 2 | Dayatthespa | Ramon Dominguez | Chad C. Brown | 12/1 |
| 3 | Up (IRE) | Ryan Moore | Aidan P. O'Brien | 20/1 |
| 4 | Stopshoppingmaria | Javier Castellano | Todd A. Pletcher | 8/1 |
| 5 | Stephanie's Kitten | John Velazquez | Wayne M. Catalano | 12/1 |
| 6 | Sweet Cat | Garrett Gomez | Todd A. Pletcher | 10/1 |
| 7 | Royal Bonnie | Cornelio Velasquez | George Weaver | 30/1 |
| 8 | Hard Not to Like | Mike Smith | Gail Cox | 15/1 |
| 9 | Pure Gossip | Ryan Curatolo | Philip M. Serpe | 12/1 |
| 10 | Elusive Kate | William Buick | John H.M. Gosden | 2/1 |
| 11 | Ann of the Dance | Corey Nakatani | Martin D. Wolfson | 30/1 |
| 12 | Dear Lavinia | Christophe Lemaire | Jean-Claude Rouget | 30/1 |
| 13 | Customer Base | Julien Leparoux | Thomas F. Proctor | 12/1 |
| 14 | Somali Lemonade | Alex Solis | Michael R. Matz | 3/1 |
| AE | Bourbonstreetgirl | Joe Talamo | Gary Contessa | Scratch |
| AE | Karlovy Vary | Garrett Gomez | George R. Arnold II | Scratch |
| Post | Horse | Jockey | Trainer | ML Odds |
| 1 | Irish Gypsy | Martin Garcia | Bob Baffert | 20/1 |
| 2 | Great Hot (BRZ) | Chantal Sutherland | Antonio C. Avila | 20/1 |
| 3 | Turbulent Descent | David Flores | Mike Puype | 6/5 |
| 4 | Champagne d'Oro | Corey Nakatani | Eric J. Guillot | 30/1 |
| 5 | Musical Romance | Juan Leyva | William A. Kaplan | 20/1 |
| 6 | Switch | Joel Rosario | John W. Sadler | 3/1 |
| 7 | Tar Heel Mom | Alex Solis | Stanley M. Hough | 12/1 |
| 8 | Tanda | Joe Talamo | Mike R. Mitchell | 20/1 |
| 9 | Golden Mystery | Kendrick Carmouche | Juan Carlos Guerrero | 20/1 |
| 10 | Tamarind Hall | David Cohen | Jeremiah C. Englehart | 20/1 |
| 11 | Her Smile | John Velazquez | Todd A. Pletcher | 15/1 |
| 12 | Pomeroys Pistol | Javier Castellano | Amy Tarrant | 6/1 |
| 13 | Shotgun Gulch | Garrett Gomez | C. R. Trout | 30/1 |
Juvenile Fillies - Friday, 11/4 - Race 5 - 6:10pm Post Time
| Post | Horse | Jockey | Trainer | ML Odds |
| 1 | Questing (GB) | William Buick | John H.M. Gosden | 20/1 |
| 2 | Candrea | Martin Garcia | Bob Baffert | 6/1 |
| 3 | Rocket Twentyone | Eddie Razo | W.T. Howard | 20/1 |
| 4 | Miss Netta | Rajiv Maragh | Kiaran P. McLaughlin | 15/1 |
| 5 | Grace Hall | Ramon Dominguez | Anthony W. Dutrow | 4/1 |
| 6 | Self Preservation | Joel Rosario | Ben D. A. Cecil | 15/1 |
| 7 | Putthebabiesdown | Alan Garcia | Kenneth G. McPeek | 30/1 |
| 8 | Homecoming Queen (IRE) | Ryan Moore | Aidan P. O'Brien | 15/1 |
| 9 | My Miss Aurelia | Corey Nakatani | Steven M. Asmussen | 5/2 |
| 10 | Northern Passion | Luis Contreas | Mark E. Casse | 12/1 |
| 11 | Weemissfrankie | Rafael Bejarano | Peter A. Eurton | 4/1 |
| 12 | Frolic's Revenge | John Velazquez | Milton W. Wolfson | 30/1 |
| 13 | Say a Novena | Elvis Trujillo | Edward Plesa Jr. | 30/1 |
| 14 | Awesome Belle | Luis Jurado | Stanley Gold | 20/1 |
Filly and Mare Turf - Friday, 11/4 - Race 6 - 6:50pm Post Time
| Post | Horse | Jockey | Trainer | ML Odds |
| 1 | Dubawi Heights (GB) | Joel Rosario | Simon Callaghan | 8/1 |
| 2 | Stacelita (FR) | Ramon Dominguez | Chad C. Brown | 2/1 |
| 3 | Harmonious | Martin Garcia | John A. Shirreffs | 30/1 |
| 4 | Cambina (IRE) | Garrett Gomez | Jeffrey L. Bonde | 30/1 |
| 5 | Nahrain (GB) | Frankie Dettori | Roger Varian | 7/2 |
| 6 | Announce (GB) | Maxime Guyon | Andre Fabre | 9/2 |
| 7 | Aruna | Julien Leparoux | H. Graham Motion | 6/1 |
| 8 | Perfect Shirl | John Velazquez | Roger L. Attfield | 30/1 |
| 9 | Shared Account | Edgar Prado | H. Graham Motion | 30/1 |
| 10 | Distorted Legacy | Rajiv Maragh | Angel Penna Jr. | 30/1 |
| 11 | Dynaslew | Corey Nakatani | Seth Benzel | 30/1 |
| 12 | Misty For Me (IRE) | Ryan Moore | Aidan P. O'Brien | 10/1 |
Ladies' Classic - Friday, 11/4 - Race 7 - 7:30pm Post Time
| Post | Horse | Jockey | Trainer | ML Odds |
| 1 | Miss Match (ARG) | Garrett Gomez | Neil D. Drysdale | 10/1 |
| 2 | Pachattack | Rajiv Maragh | Gerard A. Butler | 12/1 |
| 3 | It's Tricky | Ramon Dominguez | Kiaran P. McLaughlin | 5/1 |
| 4 | Satans Quick Chick | Edgar Prado | Eric R. Reed | 30/1 |
| 5 | Ask the Moon | Javier Castellano | Martin D. Wolfson | 6/1 |
| 6 | Royal Delta | Jose Lezcano | William I. Mott | 5/2 |
| 7 | Ultra Blend | David Flores | Art Sherman | 8/1 |
| 8 | Plum Pretty | Rafael Bejarano | Bob Baffert | 2/1 |
| 9 | Medaglia d'Amour | Patrick Valenzuela | Ben D. A. Cecil | Scratch |
| 10 | Super Espresso | John Velazquez | Todd A. Pletcher | 20/1 |
Marathon - Saturday, 11/5 - Race 3 - 1:20pm Post Time
| Post | Horse | Jockey | Trainer | ML Odds |
| 1 | Birdrun | John Velazquez | William I. Mott | 7/2 |
| 2 | Baryshnikov | Mike Smith | Michael J. Maker | 12/1 |
| 3 | Meeznah | Tom Queally | David Lanigan | 12/1 |
| 4 | Pleasant Prince | Joel Rosario | Wesley A. Ward | 12/1 |
| 5 | Giant Oak | Shaun Bridgmohan | Chris M. Block | 9/2 |
| 6 | Brigantin | Julien Leparoux | Andre Fabre | 8/1 |
| 7 | Harrison's Cave (GB) | Ryan Moore | Aidan P. O'Brien | 30/1 |
| 8 | Afleet Again | Cornelio Velasquez | Robert E. Reid Jr. | 30/1 |
| 9 | Cease | Garrett Gomez | Albert M. Stall Jr. | 6/1 |
| 10 | Eldaafer | Javier Castellano | Diane Alvarado | 10/1 |
| 11 | A. U. Miner | Calvin Borel | Clark Hanna | 3/1 |
Juvenile Turf - Saturday, 11/5 - Race 4 - 2:02pm Post Time
| Post | Horse | Jockey | Trainer | ML Odds |
| 1 | Gung Ho | Mike Smith | Michael J. Maker | Scratch |
| 2 | Fantastic Song | Javier Castellano | Chad C. Brown | 20/1 |
| 3 | Shkspeare Shaliyah | Alex Solis | Doodnauth Shivmangal | 15/1 |
| 4 | Farraaj (IRE) | Neil Callan | Roger Varian | 15/1 |
| 5 | Wrote (IRE) | Ryan Moore | Aidan P. O'Brien | 12/1 |
| 6 | Coalport | Junior Alvarado | Wayne M. Catalano | 15/1 |
| 7 | Caspar Netscher (GB) | Kieran Fallon | Alan McCabe | 6/1 |
| 8 | Majestic City | Garrett Gomez | Peter Miller | 4/1 |
| 9 | Daddy Nose Best | Julien Leparoux | Steven M. Asmussen | 30/1 |
| 10 | Animal Spirits | Robby Albarado | Albert M. Stall Jr. | 8/1 |
| 11 | Excaper | Emma-Jayne Wilson | Ian Black | 30/1 |
| 12 | Lucky Chappy (IRE) | Joel Rosario | H. Graham Motion | 10/1 |
| 13 | Finale | John Velazquez | Todd A. Pletcher | 5/1 |
| 14 | State of Play | Ramon Dominguez | H. Graham Motion | 5/1 |
| 15 |
Tequila Factor | Rafael Bejarano | Wayne M. Catalano | 30/1 |
Sprint - Saturday, 11/5 - Race 5 - 2:37pm Post Time
| Post | Horse | Jockey | Trainer | ML Odds |
| 1 | Euroears | Rafael Bejarano | Bob Baffert | 4/1 |
| 2 | Giant Ryan | Cornelio Velasquez | Bisnath Parbhoo | 8/1 |
| 3 | Aikenite | Javier Castellano | Todd A. Pletcher | 8/1 |
| 4 | Hamazing Destiny | Robby Albarado | D. Wayne Lukas | 10/1 |
| 5 | Jackson Bend | Corey Nakatani | Nicholas P. Zito | 7/2 |
| 6 | Force Freeze | John Velazquez | Peter R. Walder | 10/1 |
| 7 | Amazombie | Mike Smith | William Spawr | 5/1 |
| 8 | Big Drama | Ramon Dominguez | David Fawkes | 5/2 |
| 9 | Apriority | Joel Rosario | David Fawkes | 30/1 |
Turf Sprint - Saturday, 11/5 - Race 6 - 3:21pm Post Time
| Post | Horse | Jockey | Trainer | ML Odds |
| 1 | Grand Adventure | Javier Castellano | Mark R. Frostad | 20/1 |
| 2 | Holiday for Kitten | Joel Rosario | Wesley A. Ward | 30/1 |
| 3 | Broken Dreams | Garrett Gomez | Thomas F. Proctor | 20/1 |
| 4 | Perfect Officer | Kendrick Carmouche | Michael Pino | 12/1 |
| 5 | Great Attack | Jeffrey Sanchez | Wesley A. Ward | 20/1 |
| 6 | California Flag | Patrick Valenzuela | Brian J. Koriner | 15/1 |
| 7 | Hoofit (NZ) | Edgar Prado | H. Graham Motion | 15/1 |
| 8 | Regally Ready | Corey Nakatani | Steven M. Asmussen | 3/1 |
| 9 | Rapport | Brian Hernandez | Ronny W. Werner | 30/1 |
| 10 | Havelock | Robby Albarado | Darrin Miller | 9/2 |
| 11 | Country Day | James Graham | Stephen R. Margolis | 20/1 |
| 12 | Camp Victory | Julien Leparoux | Mike R. Mitchell | 12/1 |
| 13 | Caracortado | Joe Talamo | Michael Machowsky | 4/1 |
| 14 | Chamberlain Bridge | Jamie Theriot | W. Bret Calhoun | 5/1 |
Dirt Mile - Saturday, 11/5 - Race 7 - 4:01pm Post Time
| Post | Horse | Jockey | Trainer | ML Odds |
| 1 | The Factor | Martin Garcia | Bob Baffert | 7/2 |
| 2 | Shackleford | Jesus Castanon | Dale L. Romans | 7/2 |
| 3 | Tapizar | Garrett Gomez | Steven M. Asmussen | 20/1 |
| 4 | Tres Borrachos | Joel Rosario | Martin F. Jones | 30/1 |
| 5 | Wilburn | Julien Leparoux | Steven M. Asmussen | 4/1 |
| 6 | Irrefutable | Rafael Bejarano | Bob Baffert | 12/1 |
| 7 | Jersey Town | Cornelio Velasquez | Barclay Tagg | 15/1 |
| 8 | Caleb's Posse | Rajiv Maragh | Donnie K. Von Hemel | 5/1 |
| 9 | Trappe Shot | John Velazquez | Kiaran P. McLaughlin | 3/1 |
Turf - Saturday, 11/5 - Race 8 - 4:45pm Post Time
| Post | Horse | Jockey | Trainer | ML Odds |
| 1 | St Nicholas Abbey (IRE) | Joseph O'Brien | Aidan P. O'Brien | 9/2 |
| 2 | Sarafina (FR) | Christophe Lemaire | Alain De Royer-Dupre | 5/2 |
| 3 | Dean's Kitten | Ramon Dominguez | Michael J. Maker | 10/1 |
| 4 | Stately Victor | Mike Smith | Michael J. Maker | 30/1 |
| 5 | Teaks North | Javier Castellano | Justin Sallusto | 20/1 |
| 6 | Await the Dawn | Julien Leparoux | Aidan P. O'Brien | 7/2 |
| 7 | Sea Moon (GB) | Ryan Moore | Sir Michael R. Stoute | 4/1 |
| 8 | Brilliant Speed | John Velazquez | Thomas Albertrani | 20/1 |
| 9 | Midday (GB) | Tom Queally | Sir Henry Cecil | 4/1 |
Juvenile - Saturday, 11/5 - Race 9 - 5:25pm Post Time
| Post | Horse | Jockey | Trainer | ML Odds |
| 1 | Take Charge Indy | James Graham | Patrick B. Byrne | 30/1 |
| 2 | Dullahan | Kent Desormeaux | Dale L. Romans | 8/1 |
| 3 | Crusade | Julien Leparoux | Aidan P. O'Brien | 12/1 |
| 4 | Drill | Martin Garcia | Bob Baffert | 8/1 |
| 5 | Hansen | Ramon Dominguez | Michael J. Maker | 10/1 |
| 6 | Prospective | Luis Contreras | Mark E. Casse | 30/1 |
| 7 | Creative Cause | Joel Rosario | Mike Harrington | 7/2 |
| 8 | Speightscity | Corey Nakatani | Gary Contessa | 20/1 |
| 9 | Alpha | Garrett Gomez | Kiaran P. McLaughlin | 15/1 |
| 10 | Union Rags | Javier Castellano | Michael R. Matz | 2/1 |
| 11 | Daddy Long Legs | Ryan Moore | Aidan P. O'Brien | 12/1 |
| 12 | Fort Loudon | Luis Jurado | Stanley Gold | 20/1 |
| 13 | Optimizer | Robby Albarado | D. Wayne Lukas | 15/1 |
Mile - Saturday, 11/5 - Race 10 - 6:07pm Post Time
| Post | Horse | Jockey | Trainer | ML Odds |
| 1 | Goldikova (IRE) | Olivier Peslier | Freddy Head | 7/5 |
| 2 | Zoffany (IRE) | Ryan Moore | Aidan P. O'Brien | 20/1 |
| 3 | Courageous Cat | Patrick Valenzuela | William I. Mott | 8/1 |
| 4 | Mr. Commons | Mike Smith | John A. Shirreffs | 20/1 |
| 5 | Gio Ponti | Ramon Dominguez | Christophe Clement | 4/1 |
| 6 | Get Stormy | Garrett Gomez | Thomas M. Bush | 15/1 |
| 7 | Jeranimo | Martin Garcia | Mike Pender | 20/1 |
| 8 | Byword (GB) | Maxime Guiyon | Andre Fabre | 12/1 |
| 9 | Court Vision | Robby Albarado | Dale L. Romans | 30/1 |
| 10 | Sidney's Candy | John Velazquez | Todd A. Pletcher | 15/1 |
| 11 | Strong Suit | Richard Hughes | Richard Hannon | 10/1 |
| 12 | Compliance Officer | Alex Solis | Bruce Brown | 50/1 |
| 13 | Turallure | Julien Leparoux | Charles Lopresti | 8/1 |
Classic - Saturday, 11/5 - Race 11 - 7:00pm Post Time
| Post | Horse | Jockey | Trainer | ML Odds |
| 1 | Prayer for Relief | Rafael Bejarano | Bob Baffert | Scratch |
| 2 | Flat Out | Alex Solis | Charles L. Dickey | 6/1 |
| 3 | Drosselmeyer | Mike Smith | William I. Mott | 15/1 |
| 4 | Ruler On Ice | Garrett Gomez | Kelly J. Breen | 30/1 |
| 5 | So You Think (NZ) | Ryan Moore | Aidan P. O'Brien | 5/1 |
| 6 | Ice Box | Corey Nakatani | Nicholas P. Zito | 30/1 |
| 7 | Rattlesnake Bridge | Calvin Borel | Kiaran P. McLaughlin | 30/1 |
| 8 | Game On Dude | Chantal Sutherland | Bob Baffert | 10/1 |
| 9 | Stay Thirsty | Javier Castellano | Todd A. Pletcher | 12/1 |
| 10 | Havre de Grace | Ramon Dominguez | J. Larry Jones | 3/1 |
| 11 | Headache | Paco Lopez | Michael J. Maker | 30/1 |
| 12 | Uncle Mo | John Velazquez | Todd A. Pletcher | 5/2 |
| 13 | To Honor and Serve | Jose Lezcano | William I. Mott | 12/1 |
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Once again
I will donating in a fruitless attempt to hit the Pick 6 in the Breeders Cup.
I will also likely be donating in the supers, tri, and Pick3s and 4s as well.
So who’s this years Volponi?
I'm with ya.
I would take a shot at the Pick 5, but I don’t like the fact that it will include some of the non-BC races. I’ll have to wait and see how the fields in the early races turn out.
Valponi… or Arcangues? I love it when a horse wins a big race and no one is cheer because everyone is ripping up tickets.
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by Matt Gardner on Oct 31, 2011 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions
I drool everytime I see the odds that Arcangues went off at
But on a side (and lower ML note) I completely called Uncle Mo as the ML favorite. I think that this is really BC recognizing that he’s gonna pull a huge share of the handle his way, so better safe than sorry and sink his odds lower than necessary.
I feel bad for Havre de Grace though, she should be the odd on favorite, no doubt, but I guess she’ll just have to blow him away on Saturday.
Yeah, it makes sense from Battaglia's perspective..
since he’s trying to predict crowd movement, and not the actual chances of each horse. I’ll be honest, I don’t know that there are any odds that I’d take Uncle Mo.
Flat Out at 6/1 is awfully nice.
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by Matt Gardner on Oct 31, 2011 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm going through each race trying to correct my typos...
I think the odds are all correct now (I mis-typed Mo at 5/1 at first), but if anyone notices something off, let me know. Everything is starting to run together for me!
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Getting that sense of excitement! I love the Breeder’s Cup. We’re going to our place in Williamsburg, VA. this year, so maybe that will be the ticket!
Now is the time boys to make a big noise.
No matter what the people say,
For there is naught to fear, the gang's all here,
So hail West Virginia, hail.
It's good to have a nice, calm environment!
Gotta keep the concentration high.
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by Matt Gardner on Oct 31, 2011 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions
and a bottle of your favorite bourbon
Never trust a man who doesn't drink.
by Noir Jim Tressel on Oct 31, 2011 5:58 PM EDT reply actions
That's a given.
I mean, we all handicap better with a bottle of booze nearby, right? Right?
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by Matt Gardner on Oct 31, 2011 6:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Wait, how else are you supposed to do it?
by TFTribe on Oct 31, 2011 9:27 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I'm still trying to figure that out!
I suppose I shouldn’t be surprised that at the end of every Derby I’m searching for any all all races to play in order to “get it back”. A few rounds of bourbon and every race looks like a winner.
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by Matt Gardner on Oct 31, 2011 9:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Early Calls
Last year I think I got one right (and that was Goldikova), so you can cross all of these off as sure losers fellas.
Juvenile Sprint – Vexor
Juvenile Fillies Turf – Stopshoppingmaria
Filly and Mare Sprint – Switch
Juvenile Fillies – Candrea
Filly and Mare Turf – Aruna
Ladies’ Classic – Miss Match
Marathon – Giant Oak
Juvenile Turf – State of Play
Sprint – Perfect Officer
Dirt Mile – Shackleford
Turf – Await the Dawn
Juvenile – Drill
Mile – Goldikova
Classic – Stay Thirsty
Online gaming
Matt, Enjoy the blog. Thanks for the info. I’m thinking about watching the BC at home this year and betting via twinspires, tvg or another online gaming site. Any one better than another? From what I’ve seen, I’m not going to drop enough to qualify for matching funds.
Thanks for reading!
I’ve used TVG and TwinSpires, along with YouBet before they merged with TwinSpires. They all are pretty similar in terms of tracks offered, wagering interface, etc.
I haven’t looked at the recent promotions for any of them, but before you sign up, make sure there isn’t any added fees for video, wagering, etc. I don’t think that most are doing that any more, but at one time some ADWs charged extra to streaming video.
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by Matt Gardner on Nov 1, 2011 10:11 AM EDT up reply actions
DRF matches $100 for new users this weekend
Anyone use this online service? Good, bad, ugly?
Experience to extremes
I've never tried DRF.com yet.
I signed up when they went live but haven’t deposited any money. I did check out their wagering interface…looks pretty good, plus if you use their Formulator PPs (which I do) there is an easy link to bet through that app. Like I said, I haven’t actually used it, but it looks pretty decent. I’ll probably try it out this winter.
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by Matt Gardner on Nov 2, 2011 10:58 AM EDT up reply actions
Thanks Matt
This is the 2nd blog I’ve ever participated on (the first was a site dedicated to my favorite band, Rush). I’m pretty impressed with your quick and insightful responses. I’ll have to buy you a cold beverage at the Quarter Chute Cafe. Thanks much.
Experience to extremes
No problem. And I'll always take a cold beverage!
Thanks again for reading. It’s always appreciated!
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BC Classic
Anyone like Ice Box to come in the money? He’s sort of a sentimental favorite from the ‘10 Derby, but I haven’t heard from him since.
Ice Box hasn't shown me enough to really warrant much play from me...
I suppose if I’m spreading deep in a tri or super I might get to him, but I’m not sure his form is where it needs to be. Honestly, I’m surprised they haven’t tried him on the turf.
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by Matt Gardner on Nov 1, 2011 10:45 AM EDT up reply actions
Exotic bets
Matt, I love the potential for big payoffs at the BC this weekend and take a “shotgun” approach to my handicapping. Do you have any comments about partial fly wheels or other more sensible ways to play exotics than just boxing?
I don't box a whole lot
and if I do, it is usually pretty small, like a 2-hgorse EX or something like that. I definitely prefer to find a key horse and part wheel around him. Helps keeps the cost down and allows me to add more horses to the mix.
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by Matt Gardner on Nov 1, 2011 10:13 AM EDT up reply actions
Newbies bet boxes
After the Longacres Mile, I realized everyone in the house knew Awesome Gem and Noosa Beach would come in 1-2 (either way) and that I need to learn to play a wheel. I’m hoping the handicapping book I ordered comes in before the BC weekend ;→
Experience to extremes
There are rare times when I'll play a box
but usually it’s when I only want to play two horses in a race, those two both pay similar amounts on the will-pays, and I really don’t have a preference… and the payouts are decent. But if I’ve got onehorse I like more than the others, them I’m usually constructing some kind of part wheel, or I’ll back-and-forth it for varying amounts: A w/ B for $10, and B w/ A for $4, etc.
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by Matt Gardner on Nov 1, 2011 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions
Noosa Beach
How come Noosa Beach isn’t racing in the BC? I must have missed something.
Experience to extremes
Nomination money issues
Isnt that right, Matt?
by TFTribe on Nov 1, 2011 4:45 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
The connections nominated him
But apparently decided not go. I haven’t read anything about him in a several weeks.
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by Matt Gardner on Nov 1, 2011 10:02 AM EDT via iPhone app up reply actions
Didn't hear anything
Oh well. I was hoping a NW horse would compete with the big boys. Maybe next year.
Experience to extremes
I think that was the plan
From what I read earlier in they year, the connections paid $25k during open enrollment this last spring, but I’m guessing that he must have needed a rest after the Mile because, like I wrote, I haven’t hear much about him since. He hasn’t had a work since 8/14, so I’m guessing they just decided to give him some rest before returning in 2012.
And I’m with you, I’d love to see a NW horse at the BC, like Atta Boy Roy last year.
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by Matt Gardner on Nov 1, 2011 11:43 AM EDT up reply actions
Even a blind squirrel finds a nut
So here is how I like to play: I put each horse’s number into a cup once. Then I add another number for each thing I like about the horse (High Beyer, pedigree, past performance) and add two numbers for more important things like a good workout. So horse A may have his number in the bowl ten times while horse B may only have it in there once. Then I draw the first three numbers and play the ticket. It mixes what little I know about handicapping with a little luck too.
Experience to extremes
I've got a buddy that does something like that on Derby day every year.
He has his plays based on his handicapping, and then he plays some straight up supers with just random numbers he pulls, maybe does 10 straight $1 supers just for the action and luck.
"A bad day at the track is better than a good day at the office."
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by Matt Gardner on Nov 2, 2011 10:56 AM EDT up reply actions
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