BREEDERS' CUP CLASSIC 2011 RESULT: Drosselmeyer Shocks At Churchill Downs
by Matt Gardner on Nov 5, 2011 7:23 PM EDT
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Drosselmeyer, winner of the 2010 Belmont Stakes, put in a late, grinding move down the center of the track to pass Game On Dude and win the $5 million Breeders' Cup Classic. Game On Dude had set the early pace but turned back a challenge from Uncle Mo at the top of the lane but couldn't hold on in the final strides. Game On Dude finished second, while Ruler On Ice and Havre de Grace rounded out the superfecta.
Drosselmeyer is a four-year-old son of Distorted Humor out of a Moscow Ballet mare (Golden Bullet). He is trained by William Mott and was ridden by Mike Smith, who won his record-tying 15th Breeders' Cup race (Jerry Bailey).
The upset by Drosselmeyer keyed balloon payouts at the windows. Full payout information is below the jump. You can find the results to all of this weekend's Breeders' Cup races at the link below.
Scroll past the payouts to see post-race quotes from the trainers and jockeys.
Full Order of Finish
1st: Drosselmeyer
2nd: Game On Dude
3rd: Ruler On Ice
4th: Havre de Grace
5th: Flat Out
6th: So You Think
7th: To Honor and Serve
8th: Ice Box
9th: Rattlesnake Bridge
10th: Uncle Mo
11th: Stay Thirsty
12th: Headache
Payouts:
3-Drosselmeyer: $31.60, $13.20, $8.80
8-Game On Dude: $13.60, $9.20
4-Ruler On Ice: $9.80
$2 Exacta: $444.80
$0.50 Trifecta: $1,356.85
$0.10 Superfecta: $2,381.59
$1 Daily Double: $1,267.50
$1 HI-5: $156,424.00
$0.50 Pick 3: $5,136.10
$0.50 Pick 4: $46,814.05
$2 Pick Six: $95,070.00 (5-of-6)
Fractions:
1/4: 23.61
1/2: 47.84
3/4: 1:12.82
Mile: 1:38.27
Finish: 2:04.27
Internal Splits:
1/4: 23.61
1/2: 24.23
3/4: 24.98
Mile: 25.45
Finish: 26.00
Post race quotes from the connections (per the Breeders' Cup:
Bill Mott (trainer, Drosselmeyer, 1st) - "He ran a super race. He was mowing them down the last eighth of a mile. I guess his biggest attribute is his stamina, and he showed it today. When they were wearing down, he was coming. It's great. Maybe they'll want to run him another year."
Mike Smith (jockey, Drosselmeyer, 1st) - "He ran an awesome race right from the first jump. Right out of the gate, he got into a great rhythm. The key to this horse is to keep him moving. If you put on the breaks it messes him up. I knew I was going to wheel out, so I just kept him going. And I was able to save ground on both turns."
Bob Baffert (trainer, Game On Dude, 2nd) - "He ran a great race. Chantal came back clean; that's a great race. She should be proud of herself. That horse (Drosselmeyer) came down the middle. What a shame that we missed, but what a horse (Game On Dude is). He's run some big races. He just didn't see that horse. He's game, but he just didn't see the horse. Mike got her."
Chantal Sutherland (jockey, Game On Dude, 2nd) - "He ran so hard. He ran great. He absolutely ran his race today. He was running well up front and Johnny (Velazquez on Uncle Mo) was pushing on us. He really gave us a run. But when he came to us, my horse dug in and tried harder than he ever has before. He really dug in. He ran every inch of the way and he was really tired at the end. I've never seen him that tired. I am so proud of him. He ran great."
Kelly Breen (trainer, Ruler On Ice, 3rd) - "I think, he's a top-class 3-year-old. I don't know where this puts him with the others, but I have to say, after this race, because he was the only 3-year-old to hit the board, he'd certainly have to be under consideration (for Eclipse Award for Champion 3-Year-Old)."
Garrett Gomez (jockey, Rule On Ice, 3rd) - "I had a good run, all the way. I never got stopped. I was down inside saving all the ground I could, and I thought I was in great shape. The rail was clear and I was good. Then, when they all went for home, they all came over. So You Think dropped down on the rail and I had to adjust. I went out about four paths and made my run. And he came running. He ran good. No complaints."
Larry Jones (trainer, Havre de Grace, 4th) - "We didn't get the trip we wanted. The 11-horse (Headache) leaned on us pretty good from the start, but she ran well. Rick (Porter) likes to run where the gusto is. No regrets about running here. She didn't do anything to tarnish herself. She has another year ahead of her."
Ramon Dominguez (jockey, Havre de Grace, 4th) - "She tried hard. We had a good trip and she gave me all she had when I asked her at the head of the stretch."
Scooter Dickey (trainer, Flat Out, 5th) - "No excuse, he just got outrun. That's it."
Alex Solis (jockey, Flat Out, 5th) - "I had a good trip. He broke sharp. The winner came from behind me. I have no excuse."
Aidan O'Brien (trainer, So You Think, 6th) - "He ran a great race. He handled the track well, but speed is a big thing, and we would have liked them to have gone a little faster."
Ryan Moore (jockey, So You Think, 6th) - "I was closer than what I had planned to be, but he jumped well (from the gate) and there's no point taking him back on this dirt. The pace was strong, but he stayed in sweetly behind them. He just ran out of petrol toward the end. It was his first run on the dirt, in the toughest race in North America. He ran a very creditable race. He came over (from Europe) and ran well on the dirt. It was worth a chance to find out."
Bill Mott (trainer, To Honor and Serve, 7th) - "He ran a good race. He was a little rank on the first turn. He kind of threw his head in the air, but he finally settled. When we asked him at the three-eighths pole, he came and he engaged the leaders. He's at a tender age right now. I'm sure next year he will be much better."
Jose Lezcano (jockey, To Honor and Serve, 7th) - "We had a very good trip and we were in the clear all the way. We had no excuses."
Nick Zito (trainer, Ice Box, 8th) - "He ran a good race. What did he get beat, four or five lengths? He was following Mike (Smith) and Mike took off, obviously. He was widest of all. He ran a good race. He showed his form."
Corey Nakatani (jockey, Ice Box, 8th) - ""My run was actually really good. I was in a good spot, made a big run. I was trying to get right next to Mike (Smith aboard winner Drosselmeyer) at the point of the turn, to where he could carry me. And Ice Box made such a long run to get to him, it took a little bit more kick out of him than I really would have liked. He gave a great effort and got beat three lengths for the whole thing. We ended up going wide because we wanted to make sure he had a clear run. We knew he was going to make a run. He was coming into the race real good. A little more luck, and who knows."
Neal McLaughlin (assistant to trainer Kiaran McLaughlin, Rattlesnake Bridge, 9th) - "It was a tough spot. We're going to have fun with him next year. We gave it a shot."
Calvin Borel (jockey, Rattlesnake Bridge, 9th) - "He ran pretty good. He is a grinder, and I think he will be much better as a 4-year-old next year."
Todd Pletcher (trainer, Uncle Mo, 10th) - "I thought we were in good position, but he didn't settle really well. He looked like he was kind of struggling with the surface. (Jockey) Johnny (Velazquez) tried to turn him loose, but he said he wavered with the racetrack."
John Velazquez (jockey, Uncle Mo, 10th) - "You're always disappointed when they don't run as good as you expect them to. He was pretty strong going to the first turn. When he went up the back, the track started breaking underneath him a little bit and he kind of lost it. He was struggling with the track for whatever reason. I tried to give him his head where he would feel comfortable, but he never really got into a good rhythm to get a good grip of the track. I didn't want to beat him up in the stretch when everybody started going by me."
Todd Pletcher (trainer, Stay Thirsty, 11th) - "He ran kind of evenly throughout. He got stuck down on the inside, which is what we weren't hoping for. But other than that, he just got outrun."
Javier Castellano (jockey, Stay Thirsty, 11th) - "It was a good trip for me. I was close to the pace and that's where I wanted to be. He didn't fire today, unfortunately. I think he didn't handle the track very well. Unfortunately, that's the way the race unfolded. We should have been outside a little bit, but in a big field there wasn't anything you could do. We had to deal with whatever we had to deal with."
Michael Maker (trainer, Headache, 12th) - "He got beat up pretty good. He had some issues in the race."
Paco Lopez (jockey, Headache, 12th) - "He tried. That was all he could do."
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False alarm
I got REAL EXCITED to see the “Daily Double” payout thinking I was cashing in on Royal Delta/Drosselmeyer from the Ladies Classic / Clasic until someone pointed out that I had the SPECIAL Daily Double. I don’t think it’s so special now.
Experience to extremes
I didn't see what the LC/Classic Double paid.
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Exacta 8+3
I listed this as 8+3 on purpose. Here is a nice story.
My dad passed away in 2010. He was the one who took me to the track and shared his winnings – a lot of you probably share these memories.
My dad, Big Lou, as my older brother is also Lou in 2009 BC couldn’t read the DRF any more so he told my brother to just bet 8+3 exactas on all the BC races that year – because that was his age.
So I still bet 8+3 at the Derby, Preakness, Belmont and the Classic.
Thanks Dad. :)
by Swale on Nov 5, 2011 9:37 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
That's a Great story
Thanks for sharing that.
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by Matt Gardner on Nov 5, 2011 9:46 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
overseas odds
I heard some Brit with marbles in his mouth talking on TVG about how he was passing on placing a wager on a horse at Churchill Downs because the odds for the same horse were so much better in London. He laughed about the horse being overplayed over here and there was no value. Am I understanding correctly that there are different odds overseas? If so, can Americans place wagers online with one of the overseas outfits?
Experience to extremes
Yep, there are sepearate pools in some place.
The Breeders’ Cup is trying to get to common pools for everything, but they aren’t there yet.
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by Matt Gardner on Nov 7, 2011 11:35 AM EST up reply actions
in the UK
we are almost alone internationally in not having a dominant PMU at the races.
We have pool bets through the Tote (on course and off), independent bookmakers at the tracks, and large firms of bookmakers in the high street/online (though just to be confusing the tote is also a high street bookmaker as well a pool operator, and all the high street firms offer you the chance to join the Tote pool bets). We also have betting exchanges – where you can be both punter and bookmaker.
On the whole we have a very liberal gambling laws and an abundance of places to wager – and the law has recently changed (last year or two) to make gambling debts enforceable in court (never were previously) by both punter and bookmaker.
For breeders cup (and a lot of other international racing) the big firms offer an “industry price” and run a fixed price book. Exchanges do the same. Our Tote was offering its placepot bet (like a pick 6, but horses have to be placed rather than win) and we could bet direct into the US pools (French PMU etc) as well. So we get the chance to compare the US pool, the UK bookmaker, and the UK exchange if we want to bet a horse in a single race and choose the best price.
To the best of my knowledge I think there may be restrictions in place as to opening an account with a UK bookmaker – most accept accounts from residents all over europe, with restrictions if necessary – e.g., France have rules about restricting online horse racing gambling that are different to gambling online on other sports (to protect their pmu), and US gambling law is a mystery to me.
The bookmakers site rules include phrases such as
“Internet gambling may be illegal in the jurisdiction in which you are located; if so, you are not authorised to use your payment card to complete the transaction.”
and Coral’s website says when I hovered over US resident box on their open an account page…
“Anyone residing in the United States, its Territories and other locations including the one you selected are strictly prohibited from using the services of this website”.
by andrewp on Nov 7, 2011 12:47 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Great overview. Thanks!
US gambling law is a mystery to me
US gambling laws are a mystery to us all, mainly due to the fact that the states come up with their own rules. Between exceptions for horse racing, Native American casinos, lotteries, pull-tabs, slots, card rooms, internet gambling, etc. … U.S./state law is all over the map. It’s really a mess.
I’ve said this on other occasions, but you wouldn’t believe how many people I talk to that have no idea that it’s legal to wager on horse races on the internet in my own state. Because of the federal anti-internet gambling law that was passed some years ago, people just assume it’s illegal, even though there was an exception made for horse racing.
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Thanks Andrew
Appreciate the response. I am one of those people who recently realized wagering online is legal in the USA. Keep your eye on the Congressional Subcommittee on Commerce, Manufacturing, and Trade. They held hearings on Oct 26, 2011 to discuss legalizing online poker. I don’t know where it will go, but there are interesting statistics being thrown around, such as $16B each year wagered illegally online playing poker. That’s too many chips for the politicians to pass on.
Experience to extremes
Uncle Mo
At some point there will be a thread on the future of Uncle Mo.
I am sure Repole is weighing the risks/rewards of racing him next year. If he does race, it would certainly be a miler I would think. How many G1 and G2 races are there at mile or 7f that he could race in a year? he now has 3 losses – is that correct?
Mishandled
I think Uncle Mo has been mishandled and overhyped. Many experts called him the best horse in the Classic and what did he have, one G2 win? It’s unfortunate he got ill last year, but I don’t think that had anything to do with Saturday’s showing. I think he is just a miler. And he better not come up this way for the Longacres Mile unless he wants to eat some dirt.
Experience to extremes
He hasn't won past 8.5 furlongs
And his Juvenile win is his only win at two turns.
With all the time he lost this year, I’m not sure the Classic was ever going to work out for him.
I think there are plenty of races at a mile and 7f that he could run in, question is: will they chose that path if he stays in training.
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by Matt Gardner on Nov 7, 2011 11:37 AM EST up reply actions
You certainly are correct
But i have limited internet access right now. I’m going to lay out all of the risks and rewards versus possible gains on the track. I’ll probably get to it next week.
Calvin Borel
How come some handicappers say you HAVE to look seriously at Calvin Borel’s horse for the Kentucky Derby because he rides so well at Churchill Downs, but we didn’t hear that same advice during the BC at the same track?
Experience to extremes
Part of that is due to the media narrative.
Borel won 3 or 4 in the Derby so that’s what they are going to talk about. The Derby is a much bigger crap shoot given all the unknowns with 3yos at that time of year. The BC is a crap shoot in some ways, but Borel really wasn’t on a lot of live horses this past weekend.
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by Matt Gardner on Nov 7, 2011 11:39 AM EST up reply actions
Exactly
The Derby, more than any other race in the world (?) is about the trip you get. Calvin can pretty much only win on the rail, since he’s got more guts to do it than any other jock out there. When you know he’s going to do that and pretty much guarantee a short trip in a 20 horse field, you just gotta pray his mount has enough legs to make it the distance and he’s got a hole to shoot through.
Personally, i’ll never bet on a Borel ridden horse in a field less than 12. 1- He is always bet down because people konw him (the Famous Effect) and 2- He’ll get caught on the rail waaaay too often when the race isn’t about the trip,
Thanks guys
I am of the opinion ‘the best jockies get the best horses’. I try to look for horses that either have the same winning jockie in recent races or is taking a step up to a jockie that ranks high in wins at that particular track. At our local track, I also look for certain jockie/trainer combos.
Mike Watchmaker did a report from Saratoga this summer where he says weekend handicappers, like me, put too much emphasis on jockies. How much weight do some of you guys put on jockies when doing your handicapping? Am I missing anything from my criteria listed above?
Experience to extremes
It really depends
I think I put more emphasis on jockeys if they are really, really struggling. If a jock is 0-for-40 at a current meet, and I’m trying to decide between two horses that I think are pretty equal (and similar in price), I’m going to mark a negative again the “o-fer” jock.
I think “the best jocks get the best horses” is very true, but like everything in horse racing, it’s just one of many factors.
I try to look for jocks that fit certain styles: I know Pat Valenzuela is great out of the gate with early speed, if he’s put on a horse that needs to lead, that’s probably a good sign. Julien Leparoux tends to be strong on synthetic surfaces. etc.
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by Matt Gardner on Nov 11, 2011 1:33 PM EST up reply actions
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